Come to chasechat Also Forrest says……

I started this a while ago, but I didn’t want to take people away from Dals blog. So now that Dal has said he doesn’t want to do the moderating of a discussion group, I’ve decided to open it up again to people wanting to talk about Forrest’s treasure and just hang out with like minded people. I hope anyone and everyone will come by and chat or feel free to lurk and laugh.

It’s at Chasechat.com

Forrest has said that the next clue will be on The Today Show on the 17th possibly, but before the end of the month for sure. Also, Dal is on vacation looking for the treasure.

A search by Steven Shultz and his family

This search was done by Steven Shultz who was nice enough to give his permission to post it for others to see.
Well my family vacation to Yellowstone is now complete. We traveled 8 days for 4,440 miles through 10 states, saw Mt Rushmore, Custer’s Last Stand, Yellowstone, Cody WY, Thermopolis WY, and visit my son in Colorado Springs. In all we had a great time. And of course I did a little treasure hunting, but came up empty. As I promised, I will now share my solution to Mr Fenn’s poem.
CLUE #1 Begin it where warm waters halt
(FF fell in love with Yellowstone; Yellowstone noted for geysiers and hot springs; Begin = first; First hot spring from Gardiner, MT (northern entrance to Yellowstone; specifically noted in book) is Mammoth Hot Springs; in Journal of a Trapper by Osborne Russell he noted how the waters from “Hourly Geysier” (Old Faithful) turned cold as soon as the water drained from the geysier)
CLUE #2 And take it in the canyon down,
(Mammoth Hot Springs ends in a lake, then into Clematis Creek, then into Gardner River. Gardner Canyon runs along Gardner River)
CLUE #3 Not far, but too far to walk.
(drive your car to the footbridge over Gardner river)
CLUE #4 Put in below the home of Brown
(Put in= enter; enter the footbridge: the start of the lava creek trail; below the home of Brown=
Brown, Joe Joe Brown discovered gold in Bear Gulch, near the park’s northern border east of Gardiner, MT in 1866. It was reported that he took out $8,000 in gold that year. He discovered gold ore on Crevasse Mountain in the 1870’s and sold out to George Eaton in 1885, who built the first quartz mill in the district. A trail up Dome Mountain, near Yankee Jim Canyon, is named after Brown.
CLUE #5 From there it’s no place for the meek,
(meek = timid, weak; Lava Creek Trail; a nature trail is hard to do)
CLUE #6 The end is ever drawing nigh;
(not a clue – the end is drawing near)
CLUE #7 There’ll be no paddle up your creek,
(Lava Creek Trail – no need for a paddle to walk the trail)
CLUE #7a Just heavy loads and water high.
(heavy loads = weighed down with emotional importance; “The Thrill of the Chase” – water high = Undine Falls: Undine is a watery nymph from Greek mythology (like the gypsies in one of his stories??))
CLUE #8 If you’ve been wise and found the blaze
(NPS trail markers are a orange diamond; blaze = torch)
CLUE #9 Look quickly down, your quest to cease,
(At a specific trail marker on lava creek trail; #65?(post mark on teasure chest is June 5th))
To my dismay the trails in Yellowstone are not marked in any way, so I did not have a proper solution to the blase clue. I quess I need to work on that one and try again some day.

Good luck to all who is still trying to “solve” the chase!

How much does Forrest love to play golf?

Sharing some insight. If you read the following link of Forrest’s War Time for me, he talks about playing golf which was left out of his memoirs.  This was the original unedited story.

Also, I believe when he was a young teen he worked and lived at the Sun Valley 9 hole golf course in Sun Valley Idaho(one of the references in his book to the number 9). That’s where Skippy went to get the plane. It’s also mentioned in the book Flywater that’s partly written by Ernest Hemingway’s son Jack. Jack and Ernest are both buried in the cemetery in Ketchum(next to Sun Valley). The original Flywater book that Forrest mentions includes places in this area.

If you look at the photo of his Dad, he’s in front of an area called 9 Mile Hole. Could that be the reference to two can keep a secret if one of them is dead? Also, to the idea that he has a love for the game of golf(9 hole).

Dad at 9 Mile Hole

Dad at 9 Mile Hole

I’ve looked at different golf places near his home as well. There’s Buffalo Thunder. Read the story about Cody and imagine he’s describing a casino(riches new and old) in the story…losing shoes, car and credibility? I believe he mentioned that his wife loves a nice hotel in the Report Robb article , which this has. He’s never said that the chest is hidden where he fishes. That’s only assumed. Not that it can’t be, but I try not to close my mind to any one idea.

Forrest and Fechin

I think it wise to read the following book. Especially the second story in the book. It’s by Alexandra Fechin who was Fechin’s wife. You should also consider finding a copy of Forrest’s book on Fechin and you’ll be surprised what he says at the end of it. It costs $8 to get into the Fechin House which is also considered the Taos Art Museum. It’s a place where Forrest threw Alexandra Fechin her 80th birthday party( I can’t find where I read that..but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t a dream…no promises though). She passed away not long after and her single lone grave site is at the museum in the back adorned with pretty flowers. I know this is a structure and that’s why I gave up on it. Here’s the story to read.

   March of the Past by Alexandra Fechin

mrs fechin

An article on Mrs. Fechin

Double Omegas?

Double Omegas?

some of how I made it work.

some of how I made it work.

Meeting our new friend in the woods

We just got back from our 19th trip out West. We didn’t find the chest, but had an experience that we will treasure forever. Jeff and I got to our spot and started hiking around in the woods. I found my area and took out my metal detector which Jeff is not really happy about me using after that man got arrested while digging. He’s concerned we’ll end up the next story. I was concentrating on a stump that I felt could have been hollow when someone said hi. My heart stopped and so did Jeff’s I’m sure. It was a young guy who definitely wasn’t a ranger. *whew* 

He was a young  guy. We introduced ourselves. His name was Pat. He asked what we were doing and I said we were just looking for trinkets. We chatted a bit and I really clicked with him. He said he didn’t live too far and did we want a little tour of the area. Heck yeah! You could tell that wasn’t something he ever did, but you could also tell that he didn’t want us to leave.  I wouldn’t have normally felt comfortable following a stranger in the woods…but I just knew he wasn’t a serial killer($bill lol). He ended up telling us his life story. He lives alone in the family cabin and mentioned that he’s lonely, but is grateful he has his animals for company.  He took us all the way back to his house and even offered us something to drink…even after he had told us he’s living on $200 a month and food stamps. He had lost his job not that long ago. He was dating a girl for 3 years and was planning to get married, when she left him for his roommate. He has no way to be reached. No email, No cell phone, no mail even. His cabin is small, and he uses solar panels and water he gets from a spring. He showed us his rig for taking showers. He has a big hose that’s wound up in the yard that holds water to warm up in the sun, then has a hose coming off it that’s raised up by some wood to flow down on him. He said we’d be surprised how warm it can get. He told us also about how he’s trying to save the fruit trees nearby by getting more water to them. He’s thought then about how he could sell the fruit. He also has thought about bottling the water by him and selling that. 

We had walked probably 5 miles to his cabin(only took 1 to get back lol). Remember, we’re flatlanders. While we were walking he told me all these great stories about the area. He said he had his own collection of arrowheads and rocks which I asked to see when we got to his cabin(they were cool). He told us how there are petroglyphs nearby. He told us about the many caves. He all the sudden said he was treasure hunting and of course my heart stopped again lol. He was talking about those caves. He said there’s great stories he’s heard from his grandfather when he was young about the Indians and the people of the area and how they would hide things in the caves. He said he’s found arrows etched into the boulders that obviously are there to take you somewhere. Of course it made me wonder if Forrest did that and that’s why you can go in consecutive order right to the chest and why you might not need a map.

He told us about some of the families in the area. He said there’s a poor family he knew that have 16 dogs and 5 kids. He talked about how he felt sorry for the kids living in a situation like that. I thought how ironic it is to see this young guy who I’m feeling I wish I could help and he’s thinking of some other kids and how he could help them.  

He told us about his dad finding Indian pots while they built their cabin, but that they had sold them off years ago. His family lives nearby, and visits him once in a while. He said his dad is a pretty mean guy, because of his alcohol drinking. Pat said that he drinks too, but not so much. I’m thinking how I hope history doesn’t repeat itself. I was surprised by his knowledge of the area and I think he was too. I said he should give tours to flatlanders and he said that when he went to school no one liked him. I said well, I liked him and thought he had a lot of potential to do great things. I think saying that to a teenager is the best thing you can do. You could tell he had so much ambition. He talked about how other kids were just given new cars and he’s had to work for things. 

I’d like to keep a connection with him and maybe some how help him realize some of his dreams. Jeff and I used to volunteer with teens. We got to know this young guy back home in Chicago(we actually live in the country north of there) who was living with a single Mom, her boyfriend and 3 other siblings. We really got close to him and he became a part of our family. The boyfriend had hit him with a 2 x 4 when he was younger and he had to have part of his stomach removed. The boyfriend went to jail for a while, but came back. He would come to our house with his brother asking for food. This boy is now a man with the same girl he’s known since he was 12. They have a son of their own. They have jobs and a house. The Mom and the siblings are all on drugs. I know that being a part of his life was all he needed to see what he could be and what he could have.

Back to Pat….We took a lot of pictures that I wish I could share, but since some people can get information from the data embedded into them, I feel I can’t post them. I told him I’d like to get a photo with him and you could tell he was caught off guard. I think it took him aback a bit to think someone wanted a photo of him. We took one that was pointed towards his little cabin and then he said we should instead have one taken with the mountains behind us. Wasn’t that sweet that he thought about that? I told him what a special day it was for us and what it meant that he took the time to share so much. I gave him $20 and told him that he really should use it to start a tour business or for his fruit stand. I want to come back sometime when I can afford to and bring my girlfriend and her son, and my son. I teased him that I’d like to leave the boys with him so that he can re-train them to live off the land. He’s going to find a way to call me in June and I’m hoping by then I can afford another trip. By the time we got back to our car it was too late to continue our search…ok it really wasn’t…we’re just tired and weak and needed a hot shower and hot coffee lol. What a day I’ll keep forever in my mind. I have a few of those from this Chase. The relationships will always be my favorite part of the search. Till I find the gold. Then the relationships will be second…sorry guys😉 *tease*

Here are a couple pictures from that day. 

arrowheads

A few pieces of his collection.

He's showing me one of his treasures.

He’s showing me one of his treasures.

The blazes or map the indians used.

 

Just a quick side note. We found out that Forrest was going to be at the Gold Show in Albuquerque the following day. There was no way I was going to miss a chance to say hi and I just so happened to have my book with me. It was already signed, but I thought he could maybe say something in it. So we woke up the next day really early and hardly able to make it out of bed without a heavy dose of ibuprofen and drove for hours just to get a chance. We had another surprise when we got there when we saw a couple other people holding their own books. I knew they must be “regulars”. I asked this big tall good looking guy if he could figure out who I was from online…yeah I guess I’m kind of obvious..was it the pink toenails? It was Ricky from the Oak blog. I also met Tim Nobody and his wife. They ended up inviting us out to dinner, but we had to go back and wouldn’t be back down till the next day and wouldn’t have the time. He said the invite is open…so maybe one of these days. Then of course we got a chance to see Forrest again which is always the highlight. He signed my book. So now it has two signatures. If I see him again, maybe I’ll have him sign it each time lol. I did have my typical end of search melt down, but I’ve recovered after getting a fix from Google Earth and the roads will soon open in YNP. *song in head* Happy Trails….to you…..

Guess who's feet????

Guess who’s feet????

Forrest’s Garden Island. Is his fishing spot a smoke screen to his actual special private spot?

Many feel that Gardiner in Yellowstone is a clue and it is spelled right for that, but here’s another type of Garden that might have some water high(a hose) that seems interesting since Forrest won awards for this and that’s the term used. I don’t believe it’s at his gallery as that’s not North of Santa Fe, but I do believe he might have done this same thing in other locations that ARE North of Santa Fe. Is the fishing spot a smoke screen to his special place? He never actually says it’s where he fishes…right? Just eludes to it being. If he does actually say that somewhere…email me, because I don’t think he ever says it’s AT his fishing spot.

garden island recognition 1

garden island recognition 2

Garden island award

Garden island image

island

island2

Forrest talks about his Mom

I thought about waiting till Mother’s Day to post this, but I just love the message of her great attitude too much. The part where he talks about his Mom has a box around it. There are other people who talk about theirs as well.

 

Mother 1

 

Mother 2